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	<title>Comments on: Next Internet Tablet to include Phone?</title>
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		<title>By: dillera</title>
		<link>http://dillernet.com/apple/2007/07/18/next-internet-tablet-to-include-phone/comment-page-1/#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>dillera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that as time passes, we&#039;ll see Apple open up the iPhone more and more. I hope this is the case.

You are correct in that the N770/800 is much more hackable than the iPhone. But the iPhone has just been out less than 1 month. Lets give it some time. Apple can&#039;t keep such a device this closed up for too long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that as time passes, we&#8217;ll see Apple open up the iPhone more and more. I hope this is the case.</p>
<p>You are correct in that the N770/800 is much more hackable than the iPhone. But the iPhone has just been out less than 1 month. Lets give it some time. Apple can&#8217;t keep such a device this closed up for too long.</p>
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		<title>By: lame_dude</title>
		<link>http://dillernet.com/apple/2007/07/18/next-internet-tablet-to-include-phone/comment-page-1/#comment-146</link>
		<dc:creator>lame_dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw, Nokia n800 has also support for VoIP using Skype, SIP, Jabber and GTalk.And with 3rd party software like Pidgin and Xchat you can chat using MSN, IRC, ICQ, AIM, Yahoo and more.Maybe, iPhone can beat all this?Nope, it just a dumb dialer :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, Nokia n800 has also support for VoIP using Skype, SIP, Jabber and GTalk.And with 3rd party software like Pidgin and Xchat you can chat using MSN, IRC, ICQ, AIM, Yahoo and more.Maybe, iPhone can beat all this?Nope, it just a dumb dialer <img src='http://dillernet.com/apple/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: lame_dude</title>
		<link>http://dillernet.com/apple/2007/07/18/next-internet-tablet-to-include-phone/comment-page-1/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>lame_dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iPhone is just another proprietary and closed phone with fixed applications set, dozens of restriction, etc.You cannot replace built-in apps with your own apps or add new apps similar in size or speed.On iPhone you can run web-based craplets at very best, hardly can be considered as a an ability to run apps, this is not even smart phone, just a dialer and player.Yes, with stylish design.But still pretty dumb.N800 in contrast is open and you can change virtually anything if you really wish to do so.It&#039;s like comparing oranges and apples.They&#039;re completely different.One is just advanced (but non-smart) phone.Other is web tablet where you&#039;re allowed to run ANY apps (including small and fast binary apps like players, etc).And I&#039;m pretty happy with my n800 and it is cool that it does not introduces restrictions on what I can run so it rather resembles computer than a restricted phones.But well, there is already open phone ongoing at openmoko.org, maybe it is a time for Nokia to learn the lesson and take same hardware design ideas where only GSM part is proprietary and remaining part is open?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iPhone is just another proprietary and closed phone with fixed applications set, dozens of restriction, etc.You cannot replace built-in apps with your own apps or add new apps similar in size or speed.On iPhone you can run web-based craplets at very best, hardly can be considered as a an ability to run apps, this is not even smart phone, just a dialer and player.Yes, with stylish design.But still pretty dumb.N800 in contrast is open and you can change virtually anything if you really wish to do so.It&#8217;s like comparing oranges and apples.They&#8217;re completely different.One is just advanced (but non-smart) phone.Other is web tablet where you&#8217;re allowed to run ANY apps (including small and fast binary apps like players, etc).And I&#8217;m pretty happy with my n800 and it is cool that it does not introduces restrictions on what I can run so it rather resembles computer than a restricted phones.But well, there is already open phone ongoing at openmoko.org, maybe it is a time for Nokia to learn the lesson and take same hardware design ideas where only GSM part is proprietary and remaining part is open?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://dillernet.com/apple/2007/07/18/next-internet-tablet-to-include-phone/comment-page-1/#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 02:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really hope it doesn&#039;t have a phone.  Since I use mine as a pocket portable way of talking to my servers when I&#039;m not in the office nothing could be worse than trying to work on the box and talk on the phone at the same time. 

Adding a phone would only weigh it down, physically and other wise.  To me it makes as much sense as installing phone hardware in my laptop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hope it doesn&#8217;t have a phone.  Since I use mine as a pocket portable way of talking to my servers when I&#8217;m not in the office nothing could be worse than trying to work on the box and talk on the phone at the same time. </p>
<p>Adding a phone would only weigh it down, physically and other wise.  To me it makes as much sense as installing phone hardware in my laptop.</p>
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		<title>By: dillera</title>
		<link>http://dillernet.com/apple/2007/07/18/next-internet-tablet-to-include-phone/comment-page-1/#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>dillera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 02:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I live in the US and so I only have access to US carriers. And the iPhone fits the bill for a sleek, sexy phone. I&#039;m just pondering if Nokia is going to come out with something more like the iPhone than like say, the N900.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I live in the US and so I only have access to US carriers. And the iPhone fits the bill for a sleek, sexy phone. I&#8217;m just pondering if Nokia is going to come out with something more like the iPhone than like say, the N900.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://dillernet.com/apple/2007/07/18/next-internet-tablet-to-include-phone/comment-page-1/#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 22:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you seen how big the N800 is - do you really want to talk into it in public? Perhaps with a BT headset it might be less embarassing but I prefer to carry a small and light phone with me.

If US carriers cripple phone functionality, isn&#039;t it time you considered buying SIM free phones in order to get the functionality the manufacturers intended?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you seen how big the N800 is &#8211; do you really want to talk into it in public? Perhaps with a BT headset it might be less embarassing but I prefer to carry a small and light phone with me.</p>
<p>If US carriers cripple phone functionality, isn&#8217;t it time you considered buying SIM free phones in order to get the functionality the manufacturers intended?</p>
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		<title>By: dillera</title>
		<link>http://dillernet.com/apple/2007/07/18/next-internet-tablet-to-include-phone/comment-page-1/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>dillera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 20:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must have it easier over there than here. American carriers suck-- they only seem to excel in extracting profits and crippling the bluetooth profiles on their phones. I&#039;d always had a hard time using my Sprint phones (the few that had BT) as a modem.

I also don&#039;t want to have to carry two phones, charge two devices, and keep the data between them sync&#039;ed up. In fact, it was the sync issues that prompted me to start this blog a while back. Integrating the Phone and PDA makes all your information available, and it makes it easier to communicate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must have it easier over there than here. American carriers suck&#8211; they only seem to excel in extracting profits and crippling the bluetooth profiles on their phones. I&#8217;d always had a hard time using my Sprint phones (the few that had BT) as a modem.</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t want to have to carry two phones, charge two devices, and keep the data between them sync&#8217;ed up. In fact, it was the sync issues that prompted me to start this blog a while back. Integrating the Phone and PDA makes all your information available, and it makes it easier to communicate.</p>
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		<title>By: tso</title>
		<link>http://dillernet.com/apple/2007/07/18/next-internet-tablet-to-include-phone/comment-page-1/#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>tso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yawn.

the n800 have bluetooth, so whats the big deal?

the iphone only have edge outside of a wifi zone, something just about any other phone can supply these days. so partner a n800 with any phone and your go.

yep that means your carrying two devices, but i really dont see the issue with that. but then im a european so maybe i have a different take on portability ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yawn.</p>
<p>the n800 have bluetooth, so whats the big deal?</p>
<p>the iphone only have edge outside of a wifi zone, something just about any other phone can supply these days. so partner a n800 with any phone and your go.</p>
<p>yep that means your carrying two devices, but i really dont see the issue with that. but then im a european so maybe i have a different take on portability <img src='http://dillernet.com/apple/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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